Showing posts with label Pluto angular. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Pluto angular. Show all posts

Saturday, November 2, 2013

Venus Return charts: predictive?


Last night, while I was sleeping, transit Venus was conjunct the position of my natal Venus. It is like Venus looking in the mirror. What do you think about the importance of the Venus return chart?

WHY THIS POST?
On that specific moment of Venus return, Uranus and Pluto were on the angles. As Venus didn't make any major aspect at all, Venus was 'calling' in this chart. Should I spend time on delineating the Venus Return chart, I wondered. Time to see, if Venus Return charts are important and predictive, so: I checked the Venus Returns of my past. I have some past, so I can look back at many Venus Returns.

I started with the Venus return valid for the year that I met my husband. Then I did the Venus Return chart valid for the year of my marriage. And I compared those to the Venus Return of today.

1. First: the Venus return chart valid for the year that I met my husband, a long long time ago:).
- Uranus and Pluto were on either side of Midheaven.
- Venus was lost in space:).
- Venus was square Uranus and Pluto and
- Sun was inconjunct ruler 7 in the earlier Venus Return Chart.
We almost married in that year. Instead, we got engaged. We started rather dramatically, if I may say so.

2. Next: the Venus return in the year right before the year of my marriage. The return was more than 1 year ago, so maybe that is too long ago according to the rules. In that Venus Return chart:
- Venus was angular, conjunct IC, but not tightly,
- Venus was tightly square Pluto.
- The IC was conjunct natal MC (orb 2 degrees).

3. This year, 2013, there is an angular Uranus-Pluto square, but not in aspect with Venus.
Last Solar Return also had an angular Uranus-Pluto. My next SR has Venus and Mars angular, with Venus quintile Pluto. This seems to point at the importance of Venus.

TEST IT?
I should check all the Venus returns of my life to see if a Venus Return helps to find the important years for love and that is some job. I would if I thought that it would add something to what I already have, but I am a bit disappointed by the results so far.
If the Venus return was significantly indicating marriage, divorce, meeting your lover, than why isn't the Venus Return before my marriage more outspoken?

THEORY
They say that if Venus is conjunct Sun or on an angle, it will be an important year for love or marriage. That seems to have been correct for me, but it can't be correct for this year. 'They' don't say anything about Uranus and Pluto on angles. I consider that as a statement of intense tension or radical change.

You need to see the Venus return related to the natal chart, they say. Well, that is about the same thing as checking the transits during a Venus return. In that case, the Uranus-Pluto angularity in my Venus return today, is even more important, as Mercury (my natal ruler 7) is conjunct transit Pluto and square Uranus. If my Venus Return is right, there will be an important 'event' in 2013/2014. If that is correct, I'll remind you of this post. And if it's not, I'll do the same!

PRACTICE
I am curious about other person's experiences or studies, especially when it is with Uranus and Pluto on the angles of a return chart. That is personal interest, because Uranus and Pluto were on the angles of my solar return chart and in the next one, Venus is on the Descendant. I am also interested in your experiences with Venus Return charts in general. Are they indeed meaningful? Does an angular Venus in the Venus or Solar Return chart point at a crucial year for love?

There is a poll on the right!

LINKS
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2012/12/solar-return-with-uranus-pluto-angular.html Contemplating about the angular Uranus-Pluto in my SR

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2012/12/the-solar-return-moment-experience.html Finding an answer...



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Sunday, August 11, 2013

Update: solar return with Uranus and Pluto angular

On December 10, two days before my birthday in 2012, I published about my solar return for 2013 with Uranus square Midheaven (on Ascendant) and Pluto (near Midheaven) square Ascendant. This is a first update. I also added the experiences of persons with Uranus and Pluto or midpoint Uranus/Pluto hitting their natal Sun.

Now, what happened so far?

This: my position in society is about to change completely and two women that I know closely had health issues following change in social status reflected by Uranus and Pluto.

THE SOLAR RETURN
For those who didn't read the post about the angular Uranus and Pluto in the solar return, here is my solar return for 2013,  with Uranus (close to the Ascendant) square MC and Pluto (near MC) square Ascendant. 
There is an interesting mix of midpoints that I may not have mentioned before:

1. Ascendant/Midheaven (AC/MC) is 141.6 degrees (22nd of Leo)
2. Uranus/Pluto midpoint is 321.6 (22nd of Aquarius)
Thus, AC/MC is exactly opposition Uranus/Pluto (AC/MC=Uranus/Pluto). 
That is a confirmation of the aspect pattern.

You know that AC/MC is the most individual and personal midpoint of them all. It is the crosspoint of meridian and horizon. It is where heaven and earth, time and place meet, right where you were born. Aspects with this midpoint (see link) tell us about what is of cardinal importance. Reinhold Ebertin says (in COSI) that transits and progressions with the AC/MC midpoint signify important periods in life, defined by other factors. 

- AND TRANSITS URANUS AND PLUTO WITH SUN/MOON
The solar return is not alone when it comes to Uranus and Pluto. Transit Uranus and transit Pluto hit my Sun/Moon midpoint in Capricorn in 2013/2014.

THE UPDATE 
1.
I am more than half way now and something substantial changed: I quit my job. That is a revolution in my life:).
I decided to retire, exactly on the day that Transit Pluto was conjunct Mercury (see post). It was one of the many transits and progression mid July (click the link to see the other ones).

2.
Nobody died so far, but 2 women in my family, had a sudden health issue following important changes in their situation (divorce, retirement).*)
One had transit Uranus/Pluto exactly opposite Sun at the time of a TIA.

The other one had a number of transits of Pluto when she had a stent in a year of turbulance in the family and a difficult divorce. This all was mirrored by transit Uranus and transit Pluto repeatedly aspecting her Sun and Moon and Sun/Moon.

Up to now, I seem to be lucky compared to them.
(They don't have Uranus/Pluto with Ascendant/MC, by the way).

Turbulence seems to be the right word for the combination of Uranus and Pluto, when they transit Sun, MC, Ascendant, and/or Ascendant/MC or Sun/Moon midpoint. Maybe you can't help it when your world turns upside down. Maybe you impulsively did it yourself. But the result is revolutionary always. And when I see this picture mocking the French Revolution, I know that revolution involves destruction. Well, I happen to be destroying all that is useless, broken, dirty, old fashioned and over complete, following the 'instructions' in 'Coach yourself to success' by Talane Miedaner. I bought the book on a sales market (3 for 1) and I am glad that I did, cause it feels good:). Making room for something new requires turbulence. Preferably not like this:
Will that be all? With Uranus and Pluto you never really know, do you? So I will update this one or two more time...

LINKS ON TRANSIT URANUS AND TRANSIT PLUTO
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/02/amazing-transits-of-uranus.html

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/02/example-of-3x-transit-pluto.html



*) PS Sometimes change starts before you realize that your life will never be the same again. This is  my tweet on August 31, 2012:
"Transit Uranus exactly semisquare progressed sun and I had an alarming call today: mother broke hip."
That moment certainly changed my way of life. She never recovered completely...Since then I do her bills, exercise with her, help keeping her closets and room tidy, visit her more frequently than ever before and organize a lot...



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