Showing posts with label Saturn rising before Sun. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Saturn rising before Sun. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 9, 2014

What's your orientation? Your chart shows you.


Talk about astrology and most of the time people know ' their sign' (the astrological sign of the sun). That is just part of what your chart tells you. The amount of information stops the majority on the way to learning astrology, so that the sun sign and sometimes the ascendant is all that they know. If they only had the drive to learn the symbols and look at their charts, they would be able to find the most important keys to themselves and their main characteristics. You can find them in your Astro ID like you can find them in the shape of your face, the scars and the color of your eyes. That is what your chart won't tell you (at least, not that I know of), but your chart can tell you:

1. Your general view of life itself (your orientation)
2. Your crucial values and objectives (planets on the angles)
3. Your motivation (Sun/Moon midpoint aspects)
For 2. and 3. you need to have your hour and place of birth (and your own personal chart, to be calculated for free on the internet).

So calculate that chart (for example on Astro.com) and learn or find the symbols. Here is the link to The Mountain Astrologer's site to help you on the way: http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standards/new_to_astro/beginners/symbols.html

HOW TO FIND THE PLANET OF ORIENTATION?
Noel Tyl, in his book Vocations, points at the importance of what he names the 'oriental' planet, the planet rising before the sun. Here is how to find that point in your chart. Get your chart and find the Sun's symbol (a circle with a point in the middle).  Now move your finger clockwise in the circle (your finger moves to the right). What is the first object that you see? Found? Then search on the internet or buy books about the first planet rising before your sun! Or get an idea here! Was it...

Mercury? Well, like many of us, you would love to be a writer, but it will depend on Mercury's position (on an angle, without aspects, Out of Bounds) and your position in the world if you will succeed in communicating or being the 'intellectual'. So find the next planet.

Venus? You go for love, peace, beauty and happiness! The importance of estetics for your career or life style depends on a special position of Venus (on an angle, without aspects, Out of Bounds) and of course on your situation and place in society. You might just look for fun or beautiful women, at worse. So look at the next object. Move on that finger!

Mars? First, you want to DO something (about it). You are likely to be active, assertive and energetic enough to be an activist or soldier or entrepreneur. Or you are 'productive' (and more sexual active than the rest of us). Iron ladies have it (Margareth Thatcher). Read about it: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/04/mars-oriental-outer-planet-rising.html or see the post on the oriental Mars of Nicolas Anelka: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/06/nicolas-anelka-and-raymond-domenech.html and Johan Cruyff: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/03/el-presidente-johan-cruijff.html

If Mars is on the horizon or meridian, too or if Mars is Out of Bounds or not making any major aspect in sign or orb 5 degrees, this Mars will be even more important!

Jupiter? You are a positive person, looking forward to traveling, everything 'international' and/or publishing. Many internationals (in sports or football) have such a Jupiter, like Guus Hiddink (see the chart of his day of birth). More examples on this blog are:

1. http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/11/jupiter-zeppelins-and-lady.html ('Gracie' Hay Drummond-Hay)
2. http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/02/detroit-hero-jasper-schuringa-and.html (traveller who stopped terrorist on flight)
3. Belgian Queen Mathilde has it: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/04/most-charming-princess-mathilde.html. That, and a prominent Venus:)
4. Dutchman (107) living in Belgium, teacher English: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/03/107-year-old.html 
5. Criminal Joran van der Sloot is Dutch, born in Willemstad (Curacao island), is wanted in the USA and presently an inmate in Peru. Meanwhile he lived in Thailand for a while. The international...See the chart: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/11/mercury-square-jupiter-and-natal-chart.html
6. Author Oriana Fallaci's chart has Jupiter rising before the Sun: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/06/oriana-fallaci-born-june-29-and-vesta.html

If Jupiter is on the horizon or meridian, too or if Jupiter is Out of Bounds or not making any major aspect in sign or orb 5 degrees, this Mars will be even more important!

Saturn? You are classical:). For you it is Duty First! You follow your parents footsteps or try to walk the conventional ways. This makes you a perfect manager, caretaker for the elderly or scientist. Parenthood (and being responsible or guided by parents) is important for you. You might work for the government (or be part of it). Take for example Jean Claude Juncker http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2014/06/jean-claude-junckers-saturn-and-chiron.html
or André Rieu
http://art-astrology.blogspot.nl/2008/12/astrology-chart-of-andr-rieu.html
Of course, an angular or not aspected Saturn or OOB Saturn rising before the Sun is twice as strong!
Here is a tragic example (with Saturn involved with Mars and Pluto: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/07/midpoint-combination-mars-saturn-pluto.html

Uranus? I found Uranus rising before the sun in a number of charts of people who were very very old and I wonder if that is, because they are a. special b. a little out of time, not of 'today'. Here is the post:  http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/03/uranus-rising-before-sun.html When you are the only one left of your generation, you might feel like an alien sometimes. With Uranus oriental you may be trying to make this (or your own) world a better place or you are a rebel. Hugo Chavez had it  and Evita Perron had it (and they died rather young, so Uranus rising before the Sun is NOT a guarantee for living long). Sacha Baron Cohen has it. See any similarities?
(Note: Angular, not aspected or OOB Uranus rising before the Sun is extra important)

Neptune? You see the world as a magic place. You may look like a dreamer (and sometimes you are...). But sometimes you look softer than you really are...This Neptune is confusing, often 'double', anonymous or unclear, hiding behind nicknames or simply 'not of this world' (drifting on a cloud). There are ideological/idealistic politicians with Neptune rising before the sun, like Hilary Clinton. Faith, religion, fantasy or ideals guide you. Illusionist often have it. I have examples like Hans Kok, Houdin and Criss Angel...well, start with the chart of David Blain).

Pluto? Strategists have it, and politicians. They play checkons all the time. When Pluto rises before the Sun you see the importance and value of power, money, strength and influence. You may appear stronger than you are. Fifty percent of the 'James Bond's' have Pluto rising before the Sun and they are sure courageous, aren't they?:) They are also sexy and impress you somehow. Have a look here: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/11/chart-of-birth-day-of-daniel-craig.html,starting with Daniel Craig. Late Dutch Prince Bernhard (married to Queen Juliana) also had Pluto rising before the Sun.

The Moon rises before the Sun in the charts of people who's live depends on being part of a family, a group (a party, a tribe) or of the way that they know how to deal with their desires. Sometimes there is an orientation on children, childhood and education. Emotions and needs might lead you on the way through life (in a positive or in a negative way). You are the kind of person who is 'emotionally involved', like Mahatma Ghandi was.

Of course, you can have asteroids rising before your sun. They are as important as their position is in your chart (on an angle, for example, on Sun/Moon midpoint or tightly conjunct your Sun). In those cases, search the labels or find other sources to get the intrinsic meaning of that for you. If it is Juno, (finding) a partner might very important, for example.

There are always more ways to look at the meaning of a planet and there are always more parts of the chart to be considered. A very important planet, Sun or Moon might just 'spoil' the effect. Also, it very much depends on who you are, how old you are and where you live. If you are born somewhere on a mountain without money or perspective, the oriental Jupiter perhaps brings you to the library or study before you can start traveling. So take the ideas above and start working with them!

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Saturday, July 27, 2013

Jupiter, the jolly judge?

Every time that Jupiter has a part to play in an act of justice, the suspect benefits from it? It seems so, when you see the examples here. Jupiter is the symbol of protection and support. Jupiter doesn't make a difference between those who are guilty or not guilty. Jupiter is not 'justice'. Jupiter sometimes is the jolly judge in persona. But not always. There is always a 'but'

Let me give you some examples:
1. Roman Polanski
He asked a mother to send him her 13-year old daughter for glamour pictures and had sex with her. The Swiss judge said that he was NOT to be send to the USA and the French don't want to send him away either. He is protected by friends in politics. Protection is Jupiter. That is why his chart had progressed Sun semi square natal Jupiter and transit Jupiter trine progressed Mercury at the time of the verdict. See http://astropost.blogspot.com/2010/07/roman-polanski-and-jupiter.html


2. Bertrand Cantat, a popular artist in France, was supported by his fans and friends, even though he killed his friend Marie Trintignant on July 27, 2003. He said he hit her 19 times (and on the head) because he was angry and jealous. Mars (rising before the Sun) is opposition Uranus and Pluto in the 7th house in his natal chart.

Now how about Jupiter?
Jupiter is 'calling' in his chart and Jupiter (ruler of the 11th house of friends) is inconjunct his Midheaven.
On July 27 2003 this important Jupiter his his chart. Transit Jupiter was trine his progressed Sun. His friends said it was an accident, he was outraged and it was a crime passionel.

He was convicted in 2004, got 8 years but he didn't have to stay in prison all that time. Many famous Frenchmen found that the fact that he was political correct in their eyes, should help him. He was released in 2007, on October 16. That's when I wrote about his case: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2007/10/bertrand-cantat-released.html 

See Wikipedia for more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Cantat

3. Louis Althusser "massaged the neck" of his wife and she died. He was not convicted for murder. How come? Read the post on the case http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.nl/2013/05/a-mortal-marriage-louis-and-helene.html … Now how about Jupiter?

1. transit Jupiter was on his Ascendant and inconjunct his IC on the day of the death of his wife.
2. Jupiter is 'calling' in his natal chart and inconjunct Northern Node.

More on Astrology&Love: http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.nl/2013/05/a-mortal-marriage-louis-and-helene.html

4. DSK
I wrote about him many times. When he was almost due to be sent back to France I wrote:

Will the judge let him go? Will there be less strict conditions? If that is so, the lesson is: never underestimate the effect of Jupiter-Uranus in the chart of a wealthy man with good lawyers and never underestimate the effect of Neptune in the chart of a chamber maid. In this blog about Nafissatour Diallo you read that her progressed Sun changed sign and transit Neptune is now conjunct her progressed Sun. It is the combination of the negative view and the media attention.

And Jupiter happens to be positive…
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/07/sudden-windfall-domique-strauss-kahns.html

5. In "Jupiter and the wheel of fortune" I name:
Genarlow Wilson: he had to spend many months in jail for voluntarily sex with a girl of his age (but not 18 yet). Jupiter was trine his Sun when he was free again (together with Saturn-Uranus indications for 'breaking free').

6. Marc Dutroux, the serial killer, was found not guilty and/or released several times, with the help of Jupiter. See how:
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/05/michele-martin-marc-dutroux-and-jupiter.html

BUT, NOT ALWAYS...
yes, there is always a but. Consider this.

Transit Jupiter conjunct Sun, transit Sun square Jupiter, natal chart with Sun opposition Jupiter...on the day of his arrest, later he was hanged and recently found not guilty: Colin Campbell..
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/05/mistaken-hanging-of-colin-campbell.html
Why? His Sun is opposition Jupiter. Saturn rises before the Sun. Pluto opposition Mars/Saturn…

CONCLUSION
Jupiter doesn't help always… It is really a matter of 'wheel of fortune'. You also need influential friends!:) 

PS 
There is also a negative way to be found positive: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/09/alberto-contador-jupiter-and-positive.html

LINKS
For more about the mythology of Jupiter and another message about the prominence of Jupiter in the charts of criminals, see Skyscript: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/jupitermyth.html

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Sunday, October 21, 2012

Ambition in the chart


A Ferrari is a cute and fast car. It is an ambitious car, too. But it is not about the car here. It is about  a doctor with the name of the car. And about signs of ambition in the chart of his day of birth. 

Doctor Ferrari (March 26, 1953, Ferrara) is said to have received a million dollar following his advice to Lance Armstrong. That is a lot. And Lance Armstrong was not the only one... What does it take to be able to receive so much money for such advices? And what has he got (apart from the knowledge)?

1. Saturn! Saturn rises before the Sun in the chart of Ferrari. It is the symbol of the manager, the one with an official degree and 'classics'. Becoming a doctor is gaining status. 

2. Moon in Leo. That is a good Moon for the need to be the boss, be the star and be the king or queen. You shine like a star when Moon is in Leo.

3. The 'calling' Sun. When the Sun doesn't make major aspects in sign or orb 5 degrees, you have a special urge to draw attention, somehow, anyhow. Perhaps as a 'star' or a leader...

4. A combination with Jupiter and Pluto helps you to be a success. Doctor Ferrari has Sun semi square Juptier and sesquisquare Pluto. The Sun-Jupiter-Pluto combination increases self confidence. 

5. Discretion! (Mercury inconjunct Neptune and inconjunct Pluto, in a Yod) 

It is the combination that does it! Those qualities are also the qualities needed for top politicians (discretion, ambition, being serious and drawing attention/being a leader). At least two politicians were born on the day that Michele Ferrari was born.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_26). 

But there is also something difficult about the aspects on his day of birth. The Mercury-Neptune inconjunction can cause legal problems, too. It all depends on the whole chart, the situation and the choices that one makes. See the examples (use the label Mercury Neptune). It won't be the first time that doctor Ferrari is in trouble.

PROGRESSIONS

In 1999 Ferrari told the world that he worked with blood doping. This openness (P Sun conjunct Jupiter) in good times turned out to be wrong in 2002, when he was being prosecuted but found not guilty (lack of evidence). In 2002 Progressed Sun was inconjunct Neptune. 

TRANSIT URANUS

At the moment transit Uranus is square his Sun. You know what transits of Uranus do? They amaze, surprise and shock you! With Uranus hectic and nervous times are coming. And when you are a VIP, you get attention (wanted or not) with transit Uranus. 

PS Are you born around March 26, June 27 or October 28? Transit Uranus hits your natal Sun, too. You can simply be upset. You can also become a controversial person. Change is is in the air. And that is in the air for Ferrari, too.  

LINKS

other doctor with wrong perscriptions : Conrad Murray. Nog een dokter die bekend werd om het verstrekken van foute middelen was Conrad Murray (Michael Jackson). This is the chart of the day of birth of Ferrari. The transits are of the day of birth of Murray. 

Here is the link to the chart of Enzo Ferrari and to more about the life of the man of the car...


Also visit: Astromarkt.net

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Sunday, July 15, 2012

Chart of Mick Jagger

The chart of Mick Jagger is an A-rated chart of Astrodienst. Here it is, with transits and progressions for  July 12, 1962, the first day of the Rolling Stones.

If I didn't know whose natal chart this was, I'd start with the Astro ID and see the importance of ambition (Saturn), drawing attention (Sun) and...the importance of artistic talents (Moon, Venus, Neptune). Because:

  • Moon in Taurus ('calling' and semi square AC/MC midpoint), 
  • Neptune ('calling' for vision at any possible level) and
  • Venus (exactly square Ascendant and making the tightest aspect, a trine with Mars)
  • As the Sun rules all the planets AND because the Sun is the final dispositor of the Midheaven I'd think of performance, show, being a leader or a star. 
  • Saturn (rising before the Sun, 'calling' for ambition, no matter what), 
In the autumn of 1963 Mick Jagger stopped Economy school (Progressed Sun sextile Saturn), because at that moment the Rolling Stones were already very popular. He became a professional artist.
I could tell a lot more about his transits and progressions during the years of his life, but who would be interested? There are more interesting objects of study. For example: Mick Jagger is also known for the amount of women that he shared his bed with. Among them: Marianne Faithfull, Margaret Trudeau, Mackenzie Phillips, Carla Bruni and Angelina Jolie. He has 7 children of 4 women and married twice. Where are all those women in his chart?
  1. He is cool (Venus Virgo) attractive (Venus square Ascendant) and passionate (Venus trine Mars).
  2. Saturn is ruler 8 and ruler 8 (of life and death and sex) is rising before his sun
  3. Mars semi square Sun/Moon and in Taurus gives a sort of a need for action and production. Or …. reproduction
  4. Venus and Neptune are of importance and they are situated in the 5th house of the opposite sex. Venus and Neptune are important for talents. They are also romantic and tend to have affairs. In the chart of Mick Jagger Neptune (romance!) is calling! It means that because of the lack of narrow major aspects in sign there is romance at any possible level, somehow, anyhow, always...
  5. Let's not forget that Mick Jagger is a worshipped star. The Sun is of vital importance in the chart, ruling all planets. As there are 50% placements in fire and in fixed signs, the sign Leo (and the ruler: Sun) is prominent. The Sun is the star in the chart. It is much easier for a star to get a lot of fans and beautiful mistresses.
  6. Think of the situation: Mick's star was rising in the 'free' 60s, his status (Saturn!) and his drive (Mars=Sun/Moon) came together and the result was the king bee.  


TOUR?
Now and in the next period of time, the transit of Uranus and Pluto will hit the progressed Sun, Midheaven/IC and natal Moon of Mick Jagger and probably cause upheaval. In fact, it has already begun.  He is under pressure and there are a lot of speculations (Transit Neptune inconjunct his natal Sun) about a final tour. It is a hype that causes stress, mixed emotions and nerves.
Stage fright? Still?

LINK
They say that Mick Jagger even had more women than Casanova had. Casanova was a completely different kind of person. If you want to see his chart and read about him, just click.

About Keith Richard on this blog


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Friday, July 15, 2011

Mars-Eris with Saturn (and a resignation)


Rebekah Brooks resignation came as a surprise, even though she was in charge of News of the World, the ex-tabloid that got part of the news by hacking phones and sites. Here are the positions of her day of birth:

MARS-SATURN (and ERIS)
There are always more than 2 indications in a chart when there is change. Here we see:
-  Transit Saturn square progressed Mars (the end of energy or ..work, death ends, disciplinary measures etc.)
- Progressed Mars is also square Eris (a conflict).
This combination of Mars-Eris and transit Saturn is the combination of the bad end of a conflict.

There is also: Progressed Mercury trine natal Pholus, Progressed Sun square Node and Transit Pholus is quindecile natal Venus. 

NATAL CHART: SUN-SATURN
The natal chart of Mrs Brooks has Sun semi square Saturn, rising before the Sun. The Sun-Saturn aspect is frequent in the charts of those who manage to be in charge. When Saturn rises before the Sun (and Venus or Mercury) there is a strong orientation on what is classical, on hierarchy (and climbing in society), on the parents' wishes and on structure (construction or administration) or management. She was a manager before she resigned.
We also notice a lot of Gemini (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars and Nessus) with Mercury in Gemini square Uranus and sextile Jupiter for the inventive and curious mind. 

So, there may not be an hour of birth, but it happened to be the day of birth for a person with an inventive and curious character and ...ambition. Perfect for, for example, a manager in the world of tabloids. I also like Uranus sextile Neptune, the combination of the hype. 

However, it takes more than the positions on your birth day to lead you into a professional career. Genes, gender, social position, the economy, chances on the way and your individual chart with hour of birth join forces and even then it is you making your choices. 

More persons were born on May 27, 1968. Baseball player Bagwell was too. He happened to have resigned as a hitting coach just recently:


LINKS
Rebekah Brooks was close to Tony and Cherie Blair. Click for the chart of Cherie.

About the chart of Rupert Murdoch and the transits and progressions for now

About the sun sign hoax and the transits with Alan Leo's chart. He is the man who made the sun signs so popular...

About Sun-Saturn in the chart of managers and leaders

About Mars-Eris in conflicts and wars


Also visit: Astromarkt.net, for example about the natal, progressed and transit Mars-Saturn and Mars-Saturn in synastry:


"In the natal chart, by transit, in the progressed chart or in synastry, the aspect of Mars with Saturn means: inevitable, obligatory action or inactivity based upon duty, age, fear or caution." 
And I like to add disciplinary measures, restrictive actions and taking control. A good example is the dog whisperer. Quote from Astromarkt:

"The chart of the famous dog whisperer Cesar Millan has Saturn rising before the Sun and Mars is 'calling' (not making aspects withing sign or within 5 degrees). The prominence of Mars and Saturn is resonating ' discipline'.  And he sure knows how to discipline dogs..."