Speculations on abdication Queen Elizabeth II

There is some speculation about the abdication of Queen Elizabeth II in 2014.

1. The idea is following the news about job sharing with her son (here: http://o.canada.com/news/world/queen-elizabeth-prince-charles-job-share-the-throne/ ) There is also a change in activities for Prince William and Prince Andrew.

2. Now a bookmaker suspends betting on the abdication of Queen Elizabeth II of England on Prince Charles 65th birthday: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2014/01/22/Bookmaker-suspends-betting-on-Queen-Elizabeths-abdication/UPI-44761390368334/ 

3. On my site Astromarkt.net I published the chart of Queen Elizabeth a few months ago.

I mentioned that Saturn (an important planet in her natal chart) indicated that all things Saturnal (duties, age, limitations) were getting harder in 2013 and that on November 11, 2014 (Charles' birthday) 
a. Saturn would be conjunct her Midheaven,
b. Jupiter inconjunct the Ascendant with Pholus and
c. Jupiter trine (progressed) Mars.
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands abdicated with Saturn and Pluto (see that story).

There has been some speculation before in 2011. I wrote about that, too, at the time (see: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/05/speculating-about-king-charles.html ) and then I also thought of 2014.

4. Here is the chart of the Prince of Wales with transits and progressions for his 65th birthday. Transit Uranus is on his Midheaven (tension, change), progressed Sun changing sign (changes life style), Progressed Sun square Jupiter (progress)….

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So, maybe it is in the air. We will see if it will land. 
But if it isn't, what could those transits and progressions mean?

LINK
http://www.astromarkt.net/horoscoop-elizabeth.html
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2012/01/pholus-and-saturn-when-you-retire.html 
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Saturn and Pholus in charts of Johnny Depp and Steve Ballmer

When you decide to retire, watch the positions of Saturn and Pholus, that is what I wrote before. When Saturn and Pholus join in, you may think that it is time (Saturn) for a turning point (Pholus). The picture above shows how I see it. There are two sides on the decision. One side seems to weigh more than the other does.

Fresh examples this week: Johnny Depp and Steve Ballmer.

 Johnny Depp announced to retire from acting and see: transit Saturn square Progressed Sun (soon after T Saturn opposition MC) and transit Pholus opposition Sun. But he didn't stop immediately and they say that more 'Pirates' are to come. He is also 50 (rather young to stop) and rich (rich enough to stop). So when you see important transits and progressions of Saturn and Pholus, to retire may be on your mind, but it takes more to actually quit and say goodbye.

STEVE BALLMER
Microsoft CEO Steven Ballmer announced - last week - that he will retire within 12 months.

There are a few indications in his chart for this. Maybe progressed Ceres conjunct natal Sun might maybe wants to take better care of himself?  And how about Saturn and Pholus?

1. Saturn was inconjunct natal Sun this year (lame duck transit) and
2. Saturn will be square Pholus in a few weeks time (time for a turning point)
3. Pholus is inconjunct natal Venus (selecting a turning point involving giving up)
4. Saturn is about to trine progressed Venus and
5. Saturn was inconjunct progressed Mercury (bye bye with a loss involved)


The first aspect that the progressed Sun (change of life style) will make is an opposition with Saturn.

Here is the chart, transits and progressions.

LINKS
I
More on the chart of Johnny Depp http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/10/astrology-chart-johnny-depp-most.html Quote:

" A successful (Jupiter) movie (Neptune) star (Sun). Sometimes astrology is easy!:) "

PS Have I told you yet about the pattern of artistic talent in his chart? Here it is:

Moon sextile Neptune
Taurus Midheaven
Venus in Taurus

And then it stops, sorry! It seems that the famous exception in the range of examples of the astrological pattern of professional artistic talent has been found:)!

II

I also quit my job recently in a period of Transit Pholus conjunct and transit Saturn exactly semi square Sun and MC (together with this Pluto-Mercury transit and Neptune crossing my horizon). There were even more transits and progressions. See http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/07/the-difficult-decision-transit-pluto.html 

III Also visit: Astromarkt.net on Pholus: http://www.astromarkt.net/astrology-pholus.html

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Saturn, Pholus and Erdogan

Istanbul as seen from the Bospurus, May 2012

Some time ago I wrote about Saturn and Pholus related to retirement. Soon afterwards, Queen Beatrix announced her retirement (http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2012/01/pholus-and-saturn-when-you-retire.html)
Pholus marks the turning point (the beginning of it0 and Saturn relates this to age, career or status. As you may see in this chart with transits and progressions of Recep Erdogan, prime minister in Turkey, he  has:

1. Transit Saturn opposition progressed Sun; hard confrontation with reality, facing the facts
2. Transit Pholus sesquisquare progressed Sun; turning point in life, risk of shooting own feet
Saturn is semi square Pholus right now! It is maybe the prelude to stepping back, but Erdogan's political career 'survived' many transits and progressions of Saturn. I wrote about Erdogan and Turkey in 2010, when he had Saturn inconjunct his Sun and the supposed to be Ascendant in the chart of Turkey received hard transits of Uranus and Pluto*).

Here is the chart (no time of birth) with transits and progressions.

In Erdogan's natal chart Sun is square Mars and trine Saturn. That highlights discipline. He is a self made manager.

You may notice that the Turkish' PM has Sun in Pisces and Moon in Sagittarius. The signs are ruled by Neptune and Jupiter. The combination of Jupiter-Neptune and Sagittarius-Pisces is related to religion and believing audiences. See the article on Astromarkt. Some of the people on Taskim square have their doubts about the question if the state will remain secular with PM Erdogan and his party.

Anyway, Saturn and Pholus together seem to be announcing a goodbye in some situations. But as charts should always been seen in the light of age, gender, class, history, situation etcetera, and as the time of birth is unknown (not allowing us to see what the MC does), we will simply have to wait and see if Saturn-Pholus has other means to show that time are about to change.

*)That is why I expected riots in 2012, related to the trial against the military top. However, it didn't happen and as I said in that post: the ascendant is strictly related to the TIME of the birth of the nation. One quarter of an hour difference and all that is left is Uranus-Pluto with Mars (a revolutionary change in the army).
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/02/turkey-2012-and-uranus-pluto.html

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