Attractive modern entertainers and actors, (those males who know and use their appearances), often have the hot planet Venus in a cool sign like Virgo or Capricorn. And they have Saturn in aspect with Venus or the Ascendant. We admire them from a distance. Males with closer contacts with women have more placements in Taurus and Libra. But how about women? I compared the charts of eight women who are considered to be one of the most beautiful women in the world. And I found Venus-Saturn (just like in the charts of men) and Venus-Pluto, together, in 7 of them. But there are exceptions (there always are...): Catherine Deneuve. However... She has Venus 'calling' in the eight house (the house of Pluto) trine the Capricorn Ascendant.
In the post about Britney I mention the professional femme fatale (Venus-Saturn-Pluto: the 'die hard' in cases of love and beauty) in her chart. Maybe that is a way to see Venus-Saturn-Pluto. There is an expression in my country:
If you want to be beautiful, you must suffer.Just depilate and scrub and you will see how true that is... And how about the challenge (Pluto) of aging (Saturn), a serious problem for the beauty and the charm...?
Suffer for beauty, charm, estetics or vanity....maybe that is exactly what Venus-Saturn-Pluto is about. (However, see this link to an article with movie about the experiment that proves that kindness improves the looks,... of apples...:).
Continue to see the charts and observations and for links to posts about the women....and about apples...
BRITNEY SPEARS
Venus in Capricorn square Pluto and square Saturn
Venus <>MR Saturn
See: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2008/07/price-of-beauty-and-chart-of-britney.html
Quote: Beauty (Venus) has its price (Pluto) when you have Venus square Pluto, like Britney has.
MICHELLE PFEIFFER
Venus in Pisces square Saturn and 157.5 Pluto (that is a sesquisquare + half semi square).
Here is her chart:
LINDSEY LOHAN
Venus 105 Saturn and in minor aspect with Pluto. Time of birth is unknown.
See: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2007/12/birth-chart-lindsay-lohan.html
Qoute:
it might cost her to be beautiful and looking good always.
BRIGITTE BARDOT
Venus in Virgo inconjunct Saturn
Venus/Pluto opposition Saturn
Here is her chart:
ANGELINA JOLIE
Angelina Jolie has Venus in Cancer conjunct Ascendant and Uranus square Ascendant.
Venus/Pluto semi square Saturn and sesquisquare Midheaven
See: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2008/10/link-between-angelina-jolie-jennifer.html
Marilyn Monroe's Venus is making minor aspects with Saturn (75 d) and Pluto (157.5d)
See: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2008/04/birth-chart-of-marilyn-monroe-material.html
Quote: This is the Astro I.D. of a rather shocking or very controversial person (...). Uranus is semi sextile Venus. It is the tightest aspect in this chart, indicating artistic talents or extra ordinary beauty. So we have a shocking (Uranus and Pluto) female (Venus).
INGRID BERGMAN
Ingrid Bergman has Venus in Virgo in the first house sextile Pluto and 47.5d Saturn (too wide for a semi square). Ceres is elevated.
Here is the chart:
Her Venus in Virgo is 'calling' and trine AC, sextile MC
This is her chart:
PALLAS URANUS VENUS MOON
Of course there is more than one combination of aspects and of course there is an individual chart and corresponding individual beauty specialities. See the links to the posts about Britney, Lindsey and Marilyn, for example. But, I have already noticed that Pallas, Uranus, Venus and/or the Moon are often in aspect with the Ascendant in the charts of beauti2es. Britney Spears has Uranus and Pallas. BB has Uranus and Moon. Jolie has Uranus and Venus. Deneuve has Pallas. Pfeiffer has Pallas and Moon. Marilyn Monroe has Uranus sesquisquare Ascendant.
CERES (good genes)
Sometimes there is a genetical beauty component, shown by Ceres and/or the family was important for the career:
- Angelina Jolie has an elevated Ceres, her father is an actor.
- Ingrid Bergman also has an elevated Ceres. Her mother was acting, too.
- Catherine Deneuve has Ceres on the Descendant. Her parents were actors.
LINKS TO MORE ABOUT BEAUTY AND...APPLES:
Everyone knows that if you want to be beautiful, you have to put the apples in your cheeks.
About an experiment with apple halfs treated nicely and full of hate. Result: the loved half of the apple looks better.
Apples and women are ancient combinations. See about Eris on Wikipedia Eris is the mythological Discordia. She threw an apple in a crowd of beautiful godesses and said: for the most beautiful:)
Eve ate the wrong apple and so did Show White...
(c) http://astropost.blogspot.com/
18 comments:
I have
-Moon sesqui-quadrate Ascendant
-Venus quintile Ascendant orb
-Uranus sesqui-quadrate Ascendant
-Venus trine Pluto
-Venus conjunction Saturn
-Venus sextile Uranus (tightest aspect)
Am I gorgeous? lol
Your chart says you are!:)
Haha, my mom keeps telling me I have an exotic beauty. But it's hard for me to show my so called beauty haha. Maybe because Venus is intercepted? :/
Dear Cei, Studies like these generally don't work the other way around. Please consider:
A. Those models and movie stars are not always natural beauties. Venus-Uranus is also the aspect of beauty surgery. Venus-Saturn is often insecure and shy. As the story says: it doesn't come easy...
B. The mentioned aspects are PART of the road to their career (with indications for talent for acting or fame, for example).
C. And the fact that models/stars have the mentioned combinations doesn't mean that you HAVE to become a model. You could just enjoy it and work with talents that you choose to work with. Beauty is almost always a big help!:)
I've never wanted to be a model, but a singer :)
I was wondering though, how Saturn, Venus, Moon, North node & Chiron work in intercepted signs.
OK. I don't work with intercepted signs, so I can't answer your question about Venus intercepted, sorry!
Interesting! I have Venus on the MC square Saturn, and Venus trine Pluto, as well as Pallas trining the Asc, and Uranus rising. Venus square Saturn has always made me feel insecure and unattractive, yet only now as I've gotten older do I realize that I was beautiful! Dang. If only I had known it at the time. Even now though, at age 49, I do appreciate my looks more, although there is the aging and the sadness about losing the youthful beauty.
Check also for the Saturn/Pluto midpoint to conjunct or square natal Venus. My daughter has this and despite my bias as a mother, she truly is beautiful.
Correct! I mentioned that on my site Astromarkt in the article abt Venus' midpoints:
http://www.astromarkt.net/venus-midpoints-aspects.html
Venus Conjunct Neptune and Moon in Scorpio, square Saturn and Trine a Pluto/Uranus conjunction in Virgo.
There is much to be said about inner beauty versus outer beauty and I would have to say that where I grieviously lack in the latter I am blessed with the former which gives others the illusion that I am physically attractive.
Although this has been an embarrasment to me for all of my life ( I was mistaken for a boy at 14 )I would have to say that I would want no other life.
Interesting! Did u know that Marilyn Monroe had pladtic surgery? Most of the exampkes are no natural beaties, but examples of what to endure for the sake of being or staying a beauty. Thank u for the comment!
I have venus trine my mc and venus conjunction neptune and uranus what does that mean for my appearance? And does midheaven have to do with appearance? because I have a lot of aspects to my mc
Hi J.D.
The MC is about status and position more than about appearance, but a trine with Venus makes you want to have a 'nice' or beautiful imago. Take small orbs and the number of aspects with Midheaven will be less:)! (Tight aspects first). Venus-Neptune-Midheaven btw is part of the artistic pattern (see http://art-astrology.blogspot.com ) and Venus-Uranus adds rythm or excitement. Models and singers often have this combination, but it doesn't work 'the other way around', just like stats don't.
Sorry for the late answer and thanks for asking!
my sun and venus in virgo both in 2nd house conjunct
and venus square my moon jupiter conjunction
and semisquare mars and Sesqui-quadrate uranus
Txs for adding an example!
I have Venus sextile Pluto, trine to Uranus and Neptune, conjunct Moon. Venus makes no aspect to Saturn hmm :( lol. I have Sun sextile Ascendant, Jupiter sextile Ascendant, both Mercury and Pluto square the Ascendant. Saturn opposite Ascendant and my Neptune/Uranus conjunction biquintiles Ascendant... *breathes* haha, that was more than I thought, lol.
Ok, Venus in the 1st house, Cancer, conjunct Sun/Mars tight sextile to Moon in Virgo, in the 4th house, plus Quintile Uranus in the 4th, a very wide Pluto sextile. Venus is the 5th house ruler, and the 12th house ruler. (and Venus conjunct Sirius) Venus/Mars midpoint = Sun
No Saturn to Venus, but there is an integration of the North/South node signs, Aries/Libra. Venus is squared these nodes.
But what does it all say, I mean as the whole? I certainly don't want to hurt to "be beautiful" but my mother used to echo this horrible statement. Although I have a Saturn sextile to my ASC, & its ruler, nothing to Venus. But an exact Quintile to Mars/Sun.
Hi Anonymous, this story is about 'beauties' (and the difficulties to remain good looking through the years) with Venus-Saturn-Pluto aspect/midpoint combinations. You don't seem to have such a combination.
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