Showing posts with label Saturn Pluto. Accidents. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Saturn Pluto. Accidents. Show all posts

Saturday, March 2, 2013

Saturn Scorpio - Pluto Capricorn and the elderly

In a lot of Western countries the situation of the elderly used to be better than ever before in history. up to now. Unlike the old and ill in history those who were too old to take care of themselves didn't have to depend on children, church or donations. They didn't have to take a blanket and die alone on an icy mountain. They were take  care off by the state.  Pluto in Capricorn and Saturn in Scorpio are symbols of state finance. Now that Pluto is in Capricorn states can't afford to have debts any more. Can they still afford to provide for the elderly?

In my country the State pension for all elderly (regardless of their income or possessions) started in 1956, with Saturn in Scorpio in a narrow square with Pluto in Leo. That was an important moment in history for the elderly and their children. They were liberated. There was less to worry about. Of course, you had to pay (Pluto) taxes (Saturn)...

Most companies also joined a pension fund for their employees. Some of the companies even offered free retirement funds and an early retirement at age 57!

Meanwhile, people got older and older. The generations born after World War II got less children than ever before. They were not needed for future care anymore and the world -including Europe - was overcrowded, they said, in the 60/70's.

We all had a good life and good prospects until the crisis. Technology would conquer and win! We might even live forever in prosperity.
Old man drinking coffee at Fosnes Nursing Home in Norway at Christmas Time by Thomas Bjorkan
The picture shows how comfortable old age looked like...

Now, with Saturn in Scorpio in mutual reception with Pluto in Capricorn they start arguiging about when to retire and about what the elderly should be given.

When in 1956 the first 65+ men and women were enabled to live on their own, people were not against the fact that they had to pay for them. There was more and more money to be earned and the future was bright. Now we see depression all around. Those under the age of 40 fear about their old age and their future and a controversy between the grandparents and grandchildren or parents and children seems to be on the way. When the man or woman aged 40 will be 65+ there will be even less children to provide for them and they will still be paying for the 85+...

There was no problem when there was enough money, but ... this money was invested the wrong way and the governments and employers took away money from the funds in the good years. So now we have a problem (Pluto) with the elderly (Capricorn) that is in fact an economical crisis and political failure of governments without a policy that looked ahead for more than their four years caused all this.
There is no time for taking the old men and women outside, no time for a talk or a walk. And politicians point at family (even if there isn't any and even if the family has to work harder and longer than ever). They must do it. We are back at the starting point. When Saturn is conjunct Pluto, in January 2020, will financing old age start all over again, another way? I'll have to find out more about Saturn conjunct Pluto in history to see what happened. However...

Just like with shares results of the past are no guarantee for the future... That is because the world of the past is not THIS world and the symbol of Pluto in Capricorn differs from history.  I wonder how the situation for the elderly was in the days of Pluto in Capricorn in history.

LINKS
At least, I didn't have to dive into history about Pluto in Capricorn, because I found an interesting study on Celestial Insight. I'll be back on the conjunction with Saturn in those days...

Also visit: Astromarkt.net for example about Saturn and Pluto aspects and the boomerang effect of the aspect. Quote:
No water in the wine with Saturn and Pluto on the label....

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Thursday, June 17, 2010

Paul Gascoigne's accident

This post is about Paul Gascoigne's natal positions, transits and progressions during the accident of June 13, about accidents in general and about the daily motion of the Sun (the solar transits). Some days are just more 'risky' than other days are. Transit Sun in hard aspect with Uranus is one of those days. Gascoigne had T Sun square Progressed Uranus on July 13.
On July 13 there was a car accident and Paul Gascoigne was one of the passengers.The driver (a woman) has been accused of driving under the influence of alcohol. Next July 28 'G8' will have to face the judge for a similar accusation. In February he was arrested for drink-driving. (See the news here...)

There is no hour of birth for Gascoigne's chart. The observations ar just observations of the positions for Gascoigne and time twins. They are not the complete astrological picture, because there is no known Ascendant (symbol of the situation) or Midheaven (symbol of the conditions). The Ascendant is very important in cases of accidents.
1. Natal chart
. Sun 105 Uranus
. Afflicted Mercury
. Saturn semi square Pholus
. Mars in a wide opposition with Saturn

2. Progressions and transits
. Progressed Sun square Lillith
. Progressed inconjunction of Neptune and Lillith
. Progressed Sun also conjunct Progressed Mercury (the symbol of communications and transportation)
. Transit Node square Eris
. Transit Jupiter and Uranus trine the 'calling' Jupiter (for the 'international' and for 'travelling')
A Jupiter/Uranus combination adds relief to every situation (in whatever way).
. Progressed Saturn conjunct progressed Eris
. On the day of the accident the transit Sun was exactly inconjunct Progressed Neptune and square progressed Uranus. The combination of Uranus and Neptune often indicates lost of consciousness (fainting).


ACCIDENTS
It takes more than 3 indications at the time to reflect serious incidents and accidents. Almost always the Ascendant, Mars and Uranus are part of the picture. I noticed that Saturn-Pluto-Ascendant midpoint combinations are related to the traffic accidents described in the famous book of C.E.O. Carter. See the label 'accidents' for more info or go to Astromarkt.

HOW ABOUT YOU?
Check the Sun's daily motion trough the zodiac and see how the transits of the Sun make aspects with your natal or progressed chart positions. These transits contribute to a general picture of 'what sort of a day it was'. In this case, the square between transit Sun and progressed Uranus pointed at upheaval, incidents and accidents, nerves, being in a hurry and unpleasant surprises or...accidents. On Astromarkt I wrote this about the transit Sun in hard aspect with Uranus:
Sun with Uranus:
Surprises, unexpexted things coming in your way, acting too soon

Transits of the Sun with Uranus happen a few times each year, reflecting 'those kind of days'. They usually don't point at a serious accident, unless there are 3 or more serious indications in the chart and in the transits and progressions. More about the daily motion of the Sun on Astromarkt (link).

LINK
Click here for more about the ups and downs in the chart and life of Paul Gascoigne on this blog...

EXTERNAL LINK
I found an interesting article about the Sun signs and driving here...

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Monday, April 7, 2008

THE BIRTH CHARTS OF DODI AND DIANA, THEIR DEATH AND THE JUDGEMENT


JUDGEMENT ABOUT DIANA'S DEATH CAUSE: THE DRIVER WAS RECKLESS

Neptune is opposition the progressed Sun of the late Princess Diana right now. Her progressed Sun is close to square Venus. I think the gossip, the negative light that was shed on her past again and the media influence is related to the Neptune opposition. And the Sun square Venus hopefully means that a new eposide of peace is near. I am convinced that the accident was an accident. I see the Saturn-Pluto-Ascendant combination in the charts of Diana and Dodi, that I also noticed in the charts of 4 other victims of traffic. And on the 31st August 1997 Mercury-Uranus afflictions in their charts indicated being in a hurry and ... a possible traffic accident.

I have don the reading of the birth chart of Diana...before, on my site Astromarkt. She was born 1st July 1961 at 19h45 in Sandringham, married 29th June 1981, eldest child William born 26th May 1982. Diana died on 31st August 1997. There is a lot to tell about the Cinderella complex in her chart (Pluto on top in the 7th degree of Virgo) and about the Plutonic effect in her life (Pluto: the price you pay for richness, the symbol of life and death, money and power, sex and politics). The chart of Diana does not show a victim. It shows that she chose her own ways of doing things, and that she needed a lot of love.

A CALLING ASCENDANT!
There is a significant lack of aspects with the ascendant. It seems she was the play ball of events and situations and had little grip on it. A calling ascendant might point at 'representing' at any possible level.

PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS, DANGER
The main afflictions are with Mars (conjunct Pluto) and through the translation of light with the Node connected with Uranus. All this occurs in the ninth house of other countries, travel and publicity. For the accident we see even more clues....

ACCIDENT
1. in her natal chart...
Mars, Uranus, Pluto close together in the equal ninth house of travelling. Afflicted Moon in 3. Ruler 8 in 3 opposed to planets in 9. Node exactly opposed to the midpoint Uranus/Pluto (radical relations, accidents together with others). And the supposed to (and always present) Vulcanus is almost exactly opposed to the midpoint Ascendant/MC.
And in her birth chart we see Mars, Uranus and Pluto in the eight house, indication of death by impulse or speed with Saturn related to the midpoint Pluto/Ascendant. That is a midpoint combination that also occurs in the two deadly traffic accident charts mentioned in the famous book of Carter. I looked at the birth charts he mentioned and gave my vision in this article, click here.

Diana was not driving and had no influence on the events at all. Still I think the transits and progressions for the accident are not plenty. Only her rush and taking risks can be found and maybe that is just her share in the event: being in a hurry.

2. transits and progressions
When she died there were these aspects:
- Transit Uranus conjunct ruler 1 Jupiter (mostly a 'thank God'relief aspect, but in transit an alarming signal? there must be something to be relieved about...) ;
- Transit Jupiter opposed to Progressed Sun (being happy, but with some side notes);
- Transit Uranus opposed to Progressed Mercury (nervous aspect, indicating the plan to speed ahead and connected to accidents involving 'hurrying' and technical problems);
- SunArc Pluto square Mars/Vulcanus (a life in danger)
- Transit Mars septile Vulcanus (another indication for danger).
- In the lunar chart previous of her death Saturn is on the descendant and Neptune, ruler 4, is on her IC.
- The strange thing is that in the converse chart the progressed Sun is tightly trine natal Jupiter. Look at Dodi with Uranus trine progressed Sun. Maybe it tells us something about the rather quick way of dying.
- Conversed progression: Uranus inconjunct Pluto; Saturn is almost exactly opposition natal Moon, ruler 8.
- Mars is ruling the 8th solar return house and is conjunct the ascendant of that solar return for 1997.

There are no transits involving the ascendant or MC unless you change birth time into 19h46m22s in which case primary ascendant is sesquisquare Pluto and the progressed Mars is exactly moving from the ninth into the eight house. That is why I think she was born 80 seconds later than officially mentioned in her birth certificate.

All ingredients of the conjunction of Mars, Uranus and Pluto in the birth chart are mixed up on that dramatic day!

MORE PLUTO
Pluto is on top with Venus/Ascendant for the power of being beautiful and being married. Pluto is disposing the 12th house of discretion and secrets and in the 9th house of publishing. Pluto is part of the Yod with Jupiter and of the small tine with Sun and Neptune . Diana was an idol (Sun-Neptune effect) and that was even more so after she died (Pluto). Pluto is semi square the MC. So her position was in a negative way related to life and death, money and power and sex...A lot of people already seem to have forgotten that in the beginning the gossip magazines did not stop talking about the way Diana and Sarah Fergusson were spending heavy lots of money!

And that brings us back to Pluto on top in a Cinderella degree...
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2007 I wrote in this blog:
DIANA - DODI:
A Mars-Mars and Jupiter-MC connection

Diana and Dodi: they must have made each other happy. Notice that his Jupiter squares her MC, while her Jupiter is conjunct his MC. I wonder it that could have prevented a row in the end. Her Mars is exactly square to his. Remember the charts of Paul and Heather? Her Mars inconjunct his...It must be attractive in the beginning but it might turn into fighting each other later when two temparements test their qualities.
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DODI's FINAL DAY
On his last day, Dodi Al Fayed had a tight aspect of transit Uranus (ruler progressed 8th house of life and death) trine the progressed Sun. That could be read as an easy and swift change. Notice that on that day Mercury is tightly semi square Uranus (for a hurry) and Saturn is tightly inconjunct Saturn. Saturn is conjunct the descendant in his natal chart and in Scorpio, square Pluto. That is the same sort of combination that I found in the charts of other victims of traffic accidents. Another bad sign is Pluto opposition Mars, within 2 minutes of orb! And perhaps the fact that Saturn is close to the MC in his solar return chart for 1997.

The oriental Moon in 9 is opposition Jupiter ruler 8 and that is the tightest aspect in his natal chart. We could read this as the woman from abroad and the collission that ended his life, but it refers to being used to travelling a lot.
Saturn square Pluto in Scorpio and the Ascendant related to the midpoint Saturn/Pluto is corresponding again with the victims of traffic who's charts I studied.


RELEVANT:
On January 15, 2008 I wrote about the testimony with ??? given by
Paul Burrell,butler of the late Princess Diana and born 6th June, 1958 in Grassmoor.