Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Cristiano Ronaldo and the baby in his chart

Cristiano Ronaldo has a baby, since Sunday July 4. We don't know where and when the baby was born. We also are not certain about the hour of birth of Cristiana Ronaldo. It seems that his mother said that he was born 10:20 and that his certificate should show 5:25 on February 5, 1985 in Funchal (Madeira). See both charts on Cova do Urso...(for the link, scroll down). And see them here, with transits and progressions for the 4th of July. Where is the little baby in the charts?


a. the 5:25 chart
Transit Pholus inconjunct the progressed Moon reveals a personal turning point including losts. The young father lost millions to pay off the mother and keep her silent. Progressed Ceres inconjunct Midheaven points at the genes and motherhood, including  a lost (the mother will not be involved in educating the baby)...
But there is also transit Jupiter conjunct Venus (ruler of the fifth house of children) for the happy party!:)
Also Transit Pluto on the Ascendant will transform his situation and Transit Jupiter square Ascendant will make it a fortunate change. Here is the 5:25 chart:


b. The 10:20 chart shows transit Pluto conjunct Midheaven and the Jupiter-Venus conjunction close to the Ascendant. The  midpoint Sun/Moon in the natal chart of 10:20 is in aspect with Ceres. And that might show that he is really motivated to nurture this child. Here is the 10:20 with transits and progressions.

And what of this remains if there is even another hour of birth? The Venus-Jupiter conjunction, the reflecting of being full of joy!


NATAL CHART
BTW I also like Pholus angular position on the IC of the chart of 5:25,because Pholus and football seem to have mutual interests (shooting and foot, read about the myth...). I also prefer this chart,because the solar return chart shows the Moon square Midheaven and Mars. In my experience the Moon-MC combination in the solar return chart is reflecting changing conditions in the family and (as a result of that) a changing position in the family. (But, did he celebrate his birthday in Funchal?)... His transfer to Real Madrid in June 2009 could be indicated by transit Pholus trine the Moon (personal turning point), the progressed Moon inconjunct natal Jupiter (for a disproportionate popularity) and progressed Midheaven sesquisquare Mars (fired/quit).
 
Here is then second chart for you to choose... 
 
HOW ABOUT YOU?
My personal experience with the Moon in aspect with the Solar return Midheaven is that of a change in the position (f.ex.in the family). Important changes in life usually are reflected by more than 2 indications like the ones that you find in the post about the astrological signs of changing times...
 
LINK
See Cova do Urso about the chart and hours of birth of Cristiano Ronaldo...
 
For more info about Ceres and Pholus, or more about football, please use the labels!
 
(c) http://astropost.blogspot.com/

PS I noticed that one of the charts is missing and corrected this later. I also see that the charts can't be opened. So I give it another try. Please see the comment from Antonio. He writes on Cova do Urso:

Saturno, o planeta das responsabilidades, fazia dois aspectos muito positivos, a Júpiter (a expansão, as leis) e a Saturno, dando-lhe confiança nas novas responsabilidades. 


And if I am not mistaken, that is Portugese for: Saturn, planet of responsibilities, makes two very positive aspects, with Jupiter (? no translations, sorry:) and with Saturn. That is giving him the confidence for the new responsibilities.

7 comments:

António Rosa said...

Dear Marga,

Nice new templaate. So refresh!

A very good post, and many thanks for the link. Very kind.

I will link this post to my own post about the clidren.

http://cova-do-urso.blogspot.com/2010/07/cristiano-ronaldo-ja-e-pai.html

Tudo de bom

António

AstroMarkt said...

Hi Antonio, can't wait to have a look:) CU!

António Rosa said...

Dear Marga,

Many thanks for add my text.

I give you the small text without translation:

(? no translations, sorry:)

(the expansio, the laws)


====

As you now, a square Venus - Neptune in native chart, usually means that there are some questions in sexuality area, not only as homossexual. This position (the square) can give the people the desire to have experiences of others sides of sexual life anf fetiches. Is very unusual that the yong man, like Cristiano, choose to have a child without a mother. He is very young and I expected a great life for him and his child.

Tudo de bom.

AstroMarkt said...

Google translates, but sometimes Google translations are very cryptical!:) I don't know if I do any better, but I give it a try in Spanish! You can use Spanish too, if you like.

Venus-Neptuno en su carta astral, muy fuerte, es uno de los 4 aspectos ' anti-matrimonio' del astrologo Ram. Hoy el Medio Cielo progresivo de Ronaldo esta en el 18 grado de Escorpio, semi quadrodo Neptune y 135 grados de Venus (ve la carta). Por eso es, que la gente (el publico, MC) habla de sus preferencias, hoy.

Y gracias, Antonio por las palabras simpaticas sobre el ' template':)!

Hasta luego, Antonio!
y disculpame por el Espanol (hace 15 anos que estudie la lengue y no se como utilisar las ' (acentos) en el texto en este Apple:(

António Rosa said...

Olá Marga

I'll try in spanish. :)))

Puede enseñarme cuales son los 4 aspectos 'anti-matrimónio' dél astrólogo Ram?

Cuales son los otros 3 aspectos anti-matrimónio?

No connosco el nombre ni esta teoría.

Me gustou.

Muy interessante!

Creyo que esto es increíble y yo no tenia conocimientos de esos rumores:

«Hoy el Medio Cielo progresivo de Ronaldo esta en el 18 grado de Escorpio, semi quadrodo Neptune y 135 grados de Venus (ve la carta). Por eso es, que la gente (el publico, MC) habla de sus preferencias, hoy.»

Excelente!

Cómo pude notar, mi castellano no es tan bueno como él tuyo.

AstroMarkt said...

Claro, Antonio, hablamos 'nuestro' Espanol!:) El Astrologo Ram encontre los 4 aspectos anti-matrimonio en las cartas de hombres y mujeres.

De hombres: conflictos entre casa 1 y 7 y
- Mars-Urano
- Luna-Saturno
- Luna-Neptuno
- Venus-Neptuno
De mujeres conflictos entre 1 y 7 y:
- Sol y Mars
- Venus-Urano
- Mars-Saturno
- Sol-Urano
Con mas de 3 de estos aspectos: mas de un divorcio o ...solitario. Con 2, riesgo de divorcio.

Naturalmente depende de la cultura y de la ' moda'. Ram vivio en Holanda y el estudio es de los anos cinquento del siglo 20. En EU la gente se casen mas pronto y mas joven que en Europa (es un riesgo mas de divorcio). Leo que en Rusia la mayoridad de las mujeres quiere un divorcio!

Th.J.J. Ram murio en 1961 y era uno de los primeros astrologos conocidos en Holanda (con Thierens y Knegt) y yo empeze de estudiar astrologia en serio con un curso de su escuela (hace 30 anos: el WvA = comunidad de trabajo de astrologos).

Bueno, me gusta tener la oportunidad de practicar el Espanol, Antonio! Gracias!:)

António Rosa said...

Marga

Muchas gracias. Pués, de ahora en delante tentaré no olvidar-me de escribir en español.

Muchas gracias por la información arriba. Ya llevé connmigo.

Un bune eclipse - mundial de futebol. :)))