Wednesday, January 12, 2011

Mars and Saturn in synastry

When the Saturn of one person is in hard aspect with the Mars of the other person it is hard not to become enemies. It is a confronting, painfull and sometimes even deadly synastry. Enemies often have this Mars-Saturn combination in synastry.  It is a confronting and sometimes deadly synastry with Jared Loughner/Gabrielle Giffords as the latest example. I collected some info of the older posts on the subject, too and added some links...

Mars-Saturn in synastry is a sometimes deadly (real or felt) combination.
The latest example of a Mars-Saturn synastry is the case of Jared Loughner, the man who shot 20 persons. Six of them died. Mrs. Gabrielle Giffords is one of the wounded victims. Below is the chart of day of birth of Jared Loughner. The transits are the positions of the day of birth of mrs. Giffords. Apparently Loughner hated the democratic politician since 2007 already. That is when he attended her 2007 campaign.
His natal Mars is quindecile Mrs Gifford's Pluto and semi square her Saturn. (See the label Mars Saturn Pluto for more about this dangerous combination.)

This double progression/transit of Sun and Mars was resonating 'being driven to action'. And his Mars is in conflict with the politician's Saturn and Pluto. It might just be coincidence, but...

Another deadly example (and with a similar pattern) is that of Amy Bishop Amy Bishop's Mars hit the Saturns of two of her victims. In her natal chart there is a tight opposition of Saturn and Pluto  (in a wider conjunction with Mars). On February 12, 2010, when she killed 3 professors and wounded 3 other persons, transit Mars was square her natal Sun.

The case of the Detroit hero ( remember, when Jasper Schuringa subdued Umar Abdulmutallab in a plane when he tried to activate a bomb.) is a story about a lot of Mars and a reciprocal Mars-Saturn synastry. Quote:
"Saturn of Umar is conjunct the Mars of Jasper. See Cafe Astrology about this aspect in synastry and you may understand that Jasper noticed that Umar was afraid. Jasper's Saturn is inconjunct the Mars of Umar, so that they are sharing a Mars-Saturn combination. "

Less violent is the Mars-Saturn synastry between Gordon Brown and Tony Blair.Gordon Brown (Mars) shouted:”You ruined my life” to Tony Blair (Saturn). The aspect is an inconjunction (quincunx).

I wrote about Evo Morales and Reyes once that they have a Mars (Reyes)-Saturn (Morales) synastry and that that is like a nail on a coffin. They are political enemies. 

Personal relationships with a Mars-Saturn synastry don't seem to be the easy going ones:). The Kennedy's have a Saturn-connection in their charts. Jacqueline Bouvier's Saturn is biquintile JFK's Mars. (His Saturn is square her Moon. In the composite chart Sun and Moon are square Saturn.) The biquintile is a soft aspect. Nevertheless: he cheated on her and the marriage didn't last long (because of the death of John F. Kennedy). There is also an exact trine between the Saturn and Mars of two political enemies (see Wikipedia). One died (the Saturn person) and the other one had to stop his career. He left the country: dead end.

So what if your Mars or Saturn is in conflict with another person's Saturn or Mars? Provided that you are not extreme personalities and driven by anger or violence, this relationship could be a longlasting one. However, with sometimes deadly criticism, perhaps. And maybe even the softer aspects end up in a cry: 'You ruined my life'!!! It takes a lot of fortunate indications (and a lot of Venus!) to beat the painfull aspects of the relationship.

The Mars-Saturn aspec is one of the four aspects in a woman's chart showing the risk of early ending relationships. Here is a list of difficult aspects for getting or staying married, as composed by the astrologer Ram:

In a man's chart they are:
Hard aspects between Moon and Saturn or Neptune, Venus and Neptune, Mars and Uranus.

In a female's chart they are:
Hard aspects between Sun and Mars or Uranus, Venus and Uranus, Mars and Saturn.

And in the charts of both genders:Afflictions between the 1st and 7th house (rulers)

I found that Venus in Aries or Mars in Libra do not make relationships easy. Neither does the placement of Neptune on the horizon in the charts of females. Hard aspects between Moon, Venus and/or Mars illustrate that it may be hard to find a match (and so the nativity needs to compromise).
Examples? See Astrology & Love

Crime and murder don't need a Mars-Saturn combination and the Mars-Saturn combination doesn't need to end in a murder case! Astrology, like statistics, doesn't work that way. Here is the link to a long list of the Mars-Saturn vocabulary on Astrofix.

Mars Saturn (slapping, discipline)

More about Mars and Saturn

See CafeAstrology's Romantic compatibility analysis:

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Continuous But Plural said...

Wow, what an intriguing chart comparison.

Redactie said...

Thank you for your nice comments, Continuous!:)