Football with Neptune, like the Titanic sinking

Yesterday, the Dutch football team failed in many ways. They are out! It is interesting that this happens with a lot of Neptune in the charts involved (posted below):

1.    Danny Blind (coach) has a progressed Sun trine Jupiter (so maybe he keeps his job), but  transit Neptune is also inconjunct his natal Sun.

2.    The chart of the Netherlands has transit Neptune inconjunct progressed Sun (and progressed Sun trine Saturn). Though the economy is getting better, this result and the high number of refugees have a negative influence. There is also transit Uranus inconjunct the progressed Midheaven (a number of incidents disturbing the status quo).

3.    Yesterday, transit Sun was conjunct Neptune in the Dutch national chart. Transits of the Sun color your day. Neptune is often the sign of deception.

4.    Robin van Persie, who shot the ball passed his own keeper, has transit Neptune opposite his Mercury now (for miscommunications), AND transit Pluto inconjunct Sun (for stress).

5.    Wesley Sneijder: transit Neptune inconjunct progressed Mercury (wrong communications with a loss involved) and transit Uranus square progressed Sun (making him nervous)

Such a lot of Neptune leads a national team into the mist or maybe more like the Titanic sinking (the ship sank with Neptune inconjunct Ascendant).

Or was the Czech Republic better?:)

Here are the charts. 

CHART DIMENSIONS...

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 PS for those interested in declinations: the Dutch progressed Moon is now at 0°41'23" N

  

See: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2015/08/zero-degree-declination-progressed-moon.html
about Zero Degree declination In that post I ask the question:
Could it just be, that the Zero Degreee Declination of the Moon refers to a critical and not so controllable point?

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The real chart of Eusebio (Ferreira da Silva)

It is always a pleasure to point at a horrible transit when something goes wrong. I had transit Mercury inconjunct Pluto just now and yes: big blooper. That will teach me not to underestimate Mercury!
I posted the chart of another Eusebio, also a late soccer player, but born in another decade.

Here is the real chart of Eusebio, the famous football player who died today. There is no hour of birth, unfortunately, and that limits the number of indications for the fame and for what happened today. I can only point at the 'calling' international Jupiter (no aspects in sign or orb 5 degrees) and the out of bounds Pluto to get a highlighted success combination that Jupiter-Pluto is. And today, transit Pluto inconjunct Jupiter and Progressed Sun inconjunct Pallas (novile Uranus) were perhaps enough to end the life of Eusebio, who had health issues before.




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Astrology chart of Pele

How does the natal chart of Pele reflect the international football player? Pele, born on October 23, 1940 has an AA rated chart on Astrodatabank that you see in this post. It is a chart with:

a. Mars oriental (for an orientation on energy, muscles, action, sport and enterprise; being driven in the first place).  Mars is the most prominent planet in the chart. That is because Mars also doesn't make major aspects in sign or orb 5 degrees. That is a 'calling'  Mars. It means energy and drive at any possible level (with that drive)! 

Mars makes a minor aspect. Mars is sesquisquare with Uranus. That shows an accelerated drive and energy. 

Now we have a person who is first of all and at any possible level highly driven and energetic.

b. Pholus in the 5th house inconjunct Midheaven refers to games (shooting with the foot) that changed his position and status in a disproportionate way. When he was a little boy he played football without shoes, bare feet. That was part of his secret:) And I bet that he hurt his feet sometimes...

Pholus is the symbol of the centaur who shot himself in a foot. Pholus also means ' turning point'. The position of Pholus in the 5th house (of games) shows us the nature of the game. This game changed his life...

c. The midpoint AC/MC is semi square natal Sun. The Sun is the symbol of leadership and performance (or games!). I quote myself:

 AC/MC with Sun

The crucial importance of leadership or performance

(re: http://astropost.blogspot.com/2010/10/sunmoon-and-acmc-combinations.html)

And this above is just part of the explanation. Let us add Brazil, the popularity of football, the trainer who noticed him...Together with the special drive and talent this generated one of the best football players in history. He was an artist in his field and the chart shows it: Moon, Venus and Neptune are in aspect with each other and with Midheaven. And he is not just an artist with a football. Did you know that he had an art exhibition? Here is the link...

http://www.joburg.org.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5347&Itemid=266 

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Dick Advocaat's switch to Russia

Dick Advocaat is Russia’s coach as from May 2010. They seem to like Dutch coaches over there. Guus Hiddink is the coach now (he left to coach Turkeye, see the post about that move...). It seems that Mr. Putin himself asked him to leave the ‘ Red Devils’ in Belgium alone. It might also be important that the Russians offered tol pay him 10 times as much as the Belgians do.

With transit Neptune square Midheaven and inconjunct Mars it is no surprise that the media and the public is not happy with his decision. They are filetting him! Very much in line with an inconjunction of Mars… Another interesting thing: the deal with the Russians hasn;t been completed yet, but Dick Advocaat already resigned. (I hope that the Pholus on his Ascendant means shooting WITH his foot and not shooting his own foot:)... Isn't he cheaper now that he resigned, I wonder?)

Here is the chart with progressions and transits.



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Chart of day of birth of Diego Maradonna coach of Argentina

Diego Maradonna is now the national football (soccer, if you wish) coach of Argentina. He was born October 30, 1960 at un unknown time (Astrolab mentions 6h40 ADT in Buenos Aires, but that is with Mercury on the Ascendant and not verified on the internet).

He shares an aspect between Sun and Pluto with most of the coaches who's chart I know and an oriental Pluto for knowing the right persons and for 'impressing others'. His Astro I.D. as far as I know without HOB, shows prominent: Pluto (oriental), Jupiter (calling and square Aries Point). It says: big gain, success. It can also make you grow horizontally and that is what happened ot Diego, too.

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SPAIN WON THE EC2008

Spain has won the European Championships Football 2008! And so did astrology, because the system worked again!:)

Please see for the prognosis! Aragonès definitely had the best chances in the final moments of the game and he had the best day in general.

LOOKING BACK AT THE CHART RUSSIA-SPAIN AND...How about the EC2008 Final?

METHOD
I use:
- the right final moment of the match
- the tightest and growing aspects of the positions of the coaches with the corners of the chart
and with that in mind I look at the match Russia-Spain and the positions of the coaches on the outside.

RUSSIA-SPAIN
It is a clear picture at that moment and at that place: Sun of Aragonès conjunct the Descendant; Saturn and Mars are crucial in Guus Hiddink's case with a crucial Ceres on the Ascendant inconjunct his Sun. Inconjunct = for losing and giving up. Saturn is not the right planet to win a game with and Mars-Saturn in combination is 'end of fight, disadvantage of sports, dead end of energy'.
BTW I like the special role Ceres has in this chart. Ceres of Hiddink (the coach of Russia) is on the Ascendant of the final moment and... inconjunct his Sun. Ceres symbolises a.o. 'harvest'. And the 'harvest' had a mismatch (inconjunct) with his Sun.

It is obvious, provided that you know when the match finishes and up to now that might be up to 8 minutes after the official moment (and up to 38 minutes after prolongation).

THE EUROPEAN CHAMPION: SPAIN OR GERMANY?
With all that in mind I hesitate to look ahead at the final game on June 29, 20h45 - ??

I think Spain might be the winner. That is because at 22h34 Aragonès has his Sun trine the Midheaven of the final whistle (that I plan at 22:34:00:)
He also has Jupiter trine both progressed Mars AND Uranus. That 'shapes'a large trine of the combination Mars-Jupiter-Uranus, a combination that I consider to be the sign of a succesful operation or ...match.
His opponent Joachim Löw has Neptune on top at that moment, square Ascendant. I have been considering the effect of Venus-Neptune in the last game, but...Neptune is crucial now (tightly square Ascendant) and his Pluto is tightly square Midheaven! That combined with the positions of the Spanish coach makes me think that Spain will win instead of Germany. Also, transit Mars is afflicting his Saturn...
But I might be wrong this time, of course. Astrologers have the same difficulties in predicting as the weather forcast teams have. Statistics usually fail to work the other way around. So the fact that the methode works, does not mean that it will always work.

I will be back about the final match Germany-Spain later, with the charts.

CHART GERMANY-TURKYE

It is interesting that the Germans won in the final minute of a match that ended at 22h38m40s, instead of at the official moment: 22h30. It must not have been a relaxing 10 minutes for the players, fans and coaches! As I was unable to find a birth date of the Turkish coach on Internet at all (which is very strange) there are only two charts to look at: the chart of the match in Basel, June 25, and the chart of Joachim Löw, the German coach. I see music (Venus and Neptune) in the combination!

BIRTH CHART LÖW AND TRANSITS
Joachim Löw was a technical assistent before he became the trainer of the national team. An oriental Mars for a focus on sports, conjunct Saturn, tells us that he might be somewhat rigid in his methods. Jupiter is calling (no Ptolemeic aspects in sign or orb 5d) and that makes Mars and Jupiter the most prominent planets in the chart. Mars-Jupiter happens to be the combination of the sports international, a succesful combination that points at a lot of energy and doing great.

Now there were a few very tight transits at 22h38m40s with the birth chart of Joachim Löw, the trainer, born February 3, 1960 in Schönau im Schwarzwald. And there is a Venus-Neptune connection that I like to point at.

THE MIDHEAVEN TRANSIT
I use to take the MC as the most important angle, pointing at results. The actual MC of the final moment was 23d58m47s Scorpio. Venus of Löw is between 8d14 and 9d30 (as his birth time is unknown, I cannot be certain). So that is Venus semi square the MC and opposition natal Venus. The MC is also conjunct his midpoint Sun/Pluto. And the MC is quindecile Neptune (14d51).


So called minor aspects within less than one degree of orb, aspects with Ceres and Chiron etc., complete the picture:
Transit Mars opposition Chiron, Uranus sextile Ceres. Sun sesquisquare Mercury, Sun semisquare Uranus (for tension), Mercury biquintile Neptune, Mars quintile Neptune, Saturn quindecile Mercury, Neptune semi square Venus and quindecile (105) Neptune, Pluto quindecile (15d) Mars, Chiron quindecile (165) Pluto...

A whole world of emotions! And that is not all for the day: Sun sextile Pluto (for stress and the will to win), Venus trine Neptune, Mars trine Jupiter...
I focus on the MC and the Ascendant, where I find Ascendant quindecile (75d)Neptune and 15d Venus, but more of importance for the results: MC septile Mars and quindecile Neptune (14d51).

VENUS AND NEPTUNE FOR VICTORY???
Every time Venus and Neptune come back.

1. The MC of the final moment is 23d58m47 Scorpio, Venus 9d12 Cancer and Neptune 24d04m40s Aquarius.

2. The German coach Joachim Löw has a tight Venus sextile Neptune aspect in his chart, no birth time, February 2, 1960 Schönau im Schwarzwald. (Venus about 8d52 Cap, Neptune 9d05m35 Scorpio).

3. His Venus-Neptune is in aspect with the transit Venus, Neptune and MC of the moment that his team won the game.

4. In the year of the EC 2008 his progressed Venus is trine Neptune and sextile Sun, while the progressed Sun is biquintile Neptune.

5. So that his progressed Venus and Neptune are 105 and 15 degrees away from the Midheaven of the final moment.

Maybe I should read that as: there was music in the moment?:) On the Internet I found that Löw is popular and 'Young Germans' called him 'a charming strategist'. I guess winning the match mad him even more popular. And as the finale of the EC 2008 occurs on a day that the solar transit is opposition his Venus and trine his Neptune, with transit Neptune semi square his Venus there might be music in the finales, too. But it also depends on who will be the other finalist, Russia or Spain. I am curious!

MC INCONJUNCT SUN = LOSING
Nihat Khaveci, the Turkish player, was not playing as he needs surgery. On the final moment of the game his Uranus is conjunct the midheaven. But Ugur Boral (14th April 1982 in Tokat) scored. As a matter of facts, he has Venus quintile Neptune in his chart...At the final decepting moment his Ceres is conjunct the Midheaven. On the 25th transit Neptune was sextile his Sun and Saturn square Uranus (tightly!). For the results I point at MC inconjunct Sun...The quincunx shows a mismatch between the moment and his vitality. In general inconjunctions symbolise lost.

RELEVANT:
Astrodatabank about Venus-Neptune

THE SUCCESSES OF MARCO VAN BASTEN Jupiter on his side...

In the chart below (progressed and transits) you see Jupiter close to the progressed Ascendant in the first hous of the chart of Dutch football coach Marco van Basten (born 31101964 102500 MET Utrecht 0050700 E 520600 N). As you can see, Jupiter, the lucky planet, is on his side!

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EC AND ASTROLGOY: DUTCH COACH OF RUSSIA, RUSSIA AGAINST HOLLAND

Guus Hiddink is a very good Dutch football coach. He manages Russia to the European Championships and even got them in the quarter finales! Now, on the 21st of June, Russia plays against The Netherlands (coach is Van Basten). I wonder about that game...

WARNING: I WILL BE WRONG!:)
You know that I try to preview the final score of football matches by looking at the positions of the planets in the natal chart of the coach and the actual Midheaven. The nasty thing is that the whistle on the end of the game is often NOT in time (in the cases below 22h30) but up to 8 minutes later! And sometimes even more, when there are penalties to be taken. So don't bet on it, I don't either:) This is an experiment! An experiment that will fail anyway. It might be confusing for you, but as you see in the above chart, my Neptune is right on top of the chart of the final moment and so it seems that I will be all wrong:)

THE CHARTS
If you are still interested in the charts and my reading, please continue:)

Here you see 3 charts of final moments with the positions of the coach on the outside. Sun and Jupiter are for celebrations, agreed? And Neptune is more contemplating, at least, ok? Now look at the charts...

a. Russia - Sweden in Innsbruck incl. ca. 5 minutes 'injurytime', positions of Hiddink on the outside. Results: Hiddink wins!
And his Sun and Jupiter are on the actual MC

b. Final moment Holland - Russia in Basel with positions of Hiddink.
Clearly the same Sun and Jupiter on the MC!

c. Same moment, now with the positions of VAn Basten, the coach of the Netherlands.
Do I see Neptune?:( So, eh...

It is unbelievable and I dare hardly say so, but according to these charts, Russia might even win. But, because of the fact that both Hiddink and Van Basten have a Solar transit - Venusday, I guess they will end up equal. But in that case, there will be penalties and if the real end of the game would be 22h50, 'Orange' will win the game.

You know what? I will be back when the game is over:)

RELEVANT:
Earlier message about Guus Hiddink

(c)Marga Bervoets

FOOTBALL EC2008 AUSTRIA-POLAND and the explosion of Beenhakker

Click on the chart drawing for a better view of the final moment of the match Austria-Poland. On the outside of the chart you see the birth chart positions of Leo Beenhakker (born August 2, 1942 in Rotterdam at 16h50 MEST). He is the coach of Poland. Poland lost the game.

FOOTBALL EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP 2008 AND ASTROLOGY French coach and chances Netherlands-France

Football, the EC2008 and the match Netherlands-France...in an astrologers' blog. I try to make a prognosis. Who will win, who will not? I think having a look at the chart of the final moment of the game, compared with the chart of the trainer or coach, will reveal a lot.

DOMENECH
Raymond Domenech is the French coach, born January 24, 1952 in Lyon. He practises astrology, is not that nice!? The confirmation of this fact is to be seen in Sun Aquarius/Moon Sagittarius with Jupiter square Uranus (and sesquisquare Mercury/Jupiter). But...will the stars be on his side tomorrow? en hij doet aan astrologie! Leuk gegeven, dat je bevestigd vindt in de combinati

Transit Jupiter will be square the Ascendant on the final moment, provided that that moment is 22h30 and not 5 minutes later like in the game Switzerland - Turkye (with fatal results for Switzerland...and pleasant ones for Turkey). Because every minute more makes the actual descendant come closer to Uranus and makes the Saturn of Domenech get higher and higher in the chart. Notice that transit Saturn is inconjunct the natal Sun of Domenech these days and that the progressed Sun is about to change sign.

HENRY
To be certain I checked the chart of Thierry Henry, born 17th of August 1977 at 18h45 in Poitiers. In his chart Uranus is conjunct MC and at the final moment his Uranus is conjunct the actual MC, too. Will he cause upheavel or will there be tension, a surprise, something unexpected? There are no signs of joy and transit Neptune opposition his Sun might point at a disappointing period in life. Maybe he does not even play!

VAN NISTELROOIJ
No, the chart of the Dutch Van Nistelrooij is more fortunate with the Sun on the descendant of the final moment of the game. And Marco van Basten'Sun is close to the MC of the final whistle.

HOLLAND WINS
So my guess is that the Netherlands win this game, maybe in a game that causes tension and excitement in the final minutes. I will see it tomorrow! And don't think it is bias. My prognosis for Netherlands-Romania is completely different.But I will have to check the Rumanian coach as well, of course.

THE PAINFULL MOMENT FOR KUHN Swiss coach views his team losing in the final moments

Here you see the chart drawing of the final moment of Switzerland-Turkye surrounded by the natal positions of Jacob Kuhn (trainer of the Swiss football team in the EC2008). What does it tell us?
- his Pluto square the moment (problem or challenge)
- his Saturn close to the Sun (a solar transits that points at depression or fear)
- Vulcanus (here he is again:), on the IC, for a public 'punishment' or 'slaughter'

And there are no good aspects at all...Very clear, is not it? And all of that while the position of Neptune high above the chart of the final moment would have been enough to visualise desillusion.

PREDICTING FOOTBALL

Here you see the chart of the final moment of The Netherlands - Italy in the European Championship 2008, played this evening (Holland won with 3-0!:). Outside the circle are the natal positions of Marco van Basten, the Dutch coach.

To predict the results I have tried before to look at the final moment of the game and the positions of the natal or progressed planets of the trainer, in this case Marco van Basten. I think Holland will win the match Netherlands-France, because I see his Sun on the actual Midheaven in this chart, just like it will be on July 9 (Holland-France). But ...

The Netherlands-Rumania on the 13th might be disappointing for Van Basten (as his Neptune is by then conjunct the actual Midheaven of the final moment). We will see...To be complete I should also check the charts of the Rumanian and France coach, of course...Maybe later.




PS The predictive system WORKED: Holland won, France lost!