By and large: Saturn in Sagittarius

Some days ago someone asked if I was a Gemini or a Virgo (because he thinks I spend too much time on details). Time  to show you that I am NOT and time for something that is more 'by and large'. Take for example Saturn moving from Scorpio to Sagittarius. 

Soon all Sagittarians will have transit Saturn conjunct Sun. Last time I had that, I started selling my appartement because we moved to a larger house and from a place by the sea to the 'big city'. Saturn ends periods in life...and starts a new one sometimes. For my chart that will be in the first 6 months of 2017, so there is time enough to prepare. I won't move!

Of course 1 transit doesn't change it all and not all persons born on the same day will have the same kind of experience. Still, they will all have to deal with Saturn, the planet of management, business, all that is cool, hierarchy, responsibility, parents and parenthood, mortgages, guilt, failure and sometimes Saturn is just boring, by and large.

Saturn is in the final degrees of Scorpio now. Late September the astrological sign for Saturn will become Sagittarius. That might be the moment when Scorpios look back in gratitude because it is finally over and done:). 

Of course there is not just Saturn up there...

Are you a Virgo, Taurus or Capricorn? Then you may have some fortune, because Jupiter will bring some optimisme and trust. Traveling, to study or expansion: it is Jupiter. And there is good news for Sagittarius: Mars will be in their sign to give some energy. They will have to share it with Aries and Leo, of course. And there is a sign that looses energy, too (Capricorn, Cancer). 

Sorry that I didn't mention Gemini, Libra, Aquarius and Pisces, but I was supposed to see the big picture of Saturn in Sagittarius and I went along the sideway already! Next time!:)

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True and not true sun signs

Interesting research done by a second date site showed that 2.5 times more members were Capricorns than Sagittarius. It seems strange that the serious Capricorns are more true than the freewheeling Sags but I think that there is more than 1 explanation. Take the horns...for example. Venus and Mars should be considered, too. But, we know that Capricorns mind their status and position and the status quo. When they would like some more adventure, they wouldn't want to risk their mortgage, pay alimony and lose a reputation. That could be a reason to search for a secret date with an odor of 'decency' (instead of sex dates). Long lasting marriages can be boring, of course. Sagittarians would, perhaps, separate sooner.

The second sign on top of the list is Aquarius (adventure, something new) and second last is Scorpio (deeply true). Aries and Taurus are third. Of course, people are not sun signs and stats like these can't be used to accuse any sign of being untrue. There is more in a chart, and much more in a secret dater's chart!

It is an interesting study, because apart from a few famous examples we can't really know who is true, can we?

See
http://relatie.blog.nl/ontrouw-3/2014/11/28/astrologie-steenbokken-gaan-het-meest-vreemd-boogschutters-het-trouwste
for the list of members and their signs with the names of the signs in Dutch.

Ram-Aries
Stier-Taurus
Tweelingen-Gemini
Kreeft-Cancer
Leeuw-Leo
Maagd-Virgo
Weegschaal-Libra
Schorpioen-Scorpio
Boogschutter-Sagittarius
Steenbok-Capricorn
Waterman-Aquarius
Vissen-Pisces

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Strange ideas about astrology

What astrology is not...

Guercino: Personification of astrology (ca. 1650)

There are lots of misconceptions about astrology.  Those ideas stand in the way of seeing astrology as it is: the spiritual study of the correspondence between the astrological (!) picture of symbols in the sky and earth's (nature's) reality (!weighing the influence of circumstances, genes, gender, culture and age). 
And no, astrology is not about a parrot picking a lucky card...and astrologers don't worship the Sun, moon or any of the planets or stars. In fact, there are astrologers all over the world and divided over all kinds of religions and convictions.

What more strange ideas are there? There is the idea that astrology is a sort of a religious belief and astrologers are leading followers of that belief,  in every single act and move. There is the idea that astrology is about 12 signs, dividing mankind in 12 kind of persons and that that astrologers don't know that those signs are not the constellations. There is the idea that astrology has been scientifically tested and that science proved astrology wrong. All that is not true. Those are the ideas of people who don't take astrology as seriously as I do:).
In some countries being an astrologer is dangerous as astrology is forbidden for religious or ideological reasons!

I started this post with a long, long defense of astrology.  I reread it and I thought: why should I mind? Whatever I say, it won't convince anti-astrology adepts at all, just as they won't ever be able to convince me. That is because I can see, hear, read, think and do my own research. Or maybe it is because I am as they are, so that I can only see the proofs of my own premise, just like they do. Whatever. I don't care. I offer some links here, for you, to make up your own mind.
I just don't want you to get any wrong ideas about astrology and astrologers. Think for yourself! And study astrology. It is an amazing eye opener in many ways.

Next post: what astrologers and astrology need is...

LINKS
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2011/01/zodiac-rearranged.html On the zodiac hype and '13th sign'
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/11/astrologers-do-witch-test.html Astrologer tested the wrong way, a dramatic story. They wanted an astrologer to find the right chart with a certain story (some of them alike). There were 7 charts! She had an afternoon to do this not very scientific test.
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/08/carlsons-test-of-astrology-not.html Much cited Carlson test was NOT scientific enough...

Matthew the Astrologer mentioned 8 things skeptics of astrology don't get here: http://www.beliefnet.com/Inspiration/Astrology/Eight-Things-Skeptics-of-Astrology-Dont-Get.aspx

 Wikipedia starts with saying that astrology is divination....

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The Sagittarius astrologer: Olivia Barclay

In the series of astrologers by sun sign I like to present the chart of Olivia Barclay, a horary and classical astrologer and designer who was born December 12, 1919 and died in 2001.  Her Sagittarius Sun semi sesquisquare Uranus in Aquarius and trine Jupiter represents the Jupiter-Uranus link that I find in almost all charts of astrologers. Her progressed chart for 1980 has the progressed Sun exactly in hard aspect with the midpoint Jupiter/Uranus. That is when she started her study of Lilly. 

The classical theme and TIME (horary) is presented by Saturn, calling*)! In the 2nd house and semi square her Sun/Moon midpoint. Design is mirrored by the Moon sextile Venus and half semi square Neptune, trine MC (with Venus opposition MC). There is a prominent Jupiter on the Ascendant, ruling the 5th house. Speculative/predictive advice? 

Now in what way was Olivia Barclay a typical Sagittarian astrologer? Almost all astrologers either publish or teach or do consultations. That is maybe enough '9th house stuff' for a Sagittarius. This astrologer also founded a correspondence course for prediction using horary astrology.  Here is her chart (click to enlarge):

LINKS

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2012/10/margareth-hone-libra-astrologer.html

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/07/the-leo-astrologer-alan-leo-and-at-mann.html

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/07/one-more-cancer-astrologer.html

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/07/the-cancer-astrologer-jan-gerhard.html

http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2013/06/ada-muir-gemini-astrologer.html

Lilly's Christian Astrology can be found here: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/CA.html

Also visit: Astromarkt.net about Jupiter-Uranus: http://www.astromarkt.net/jupiter-in-aspect-with-uranus.html Perhaps one of the reasons why Jupiter-Uranus is so frequently found in the charts of astrologers is that they use to give advice or teach (Jupiter) about astrology and it's techniques (Uranus).

*) Calling means : no major aspects in sign or orb 5 degrees

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Sagittarius' advice

Sagittarius is my sun sign. I have written about Sagittarius before (see that post) and now I like to tell you about Sagittarius giving and getting advice.

Sagittarius shows you the way. THIS direction is obligatory...

Sagittarius job is to show the way as a guide or a guru. A good Sagittarius shares his or her 'wisdom' by given advice! Yes, sometimes they do so unwanted, o when nobody asked for a 'good' advice. It is not their fault that nobody listens or follows the advice. They understand. That is because Sags tend to ask for advice (what would you do if you were me?), knowing that nobody  could know what to do if they were a Sag. Most of the time the Sagittarius simply goes his or her own way, neglecting the advice. They say that the advice helped them to make up their mind! Perhaps you can see the Sagittarius as a person who helps you to make up your mind...

This bird eats snakes. Name is Sagittarius Serpentarius

Now that the time of the Sag has come, I thought it wise to tell you this and not without an advice for you how to deal with Sagittarius:)! When I say Sagittarius, I mean the sign and not all persons born with Sun in Sagittarius. You can have a lot of placements in Sagittarius, a Sun/Moon midpoint in Sagittarius or a prominent Jupiter to explain your persistance in telling the world what is best for them:).

FAMOUS SAGITTARIUS PEOPLE
Beethoven is one of the most well known Sags and here is something on the loudness in the music and the chart: http://art-astrology.blogspot.nl/2008/12/loudness-and-charts-of-beethoven-and.html Recently I went to see a concert and heard the Fifth.

On this blog you also find
Tina Turner

And here is the one of Sagittarius Ozzy Osbourne (Moon sextile Venus square Neptune and trine Midheaven for the pattern of the artist):

I can't help it that they are loud. It seems that the voice of a Sagittarius is also loud. Maybe that is the connection with the teacher and the preacher and the singer?

QUESTION
Are you born with Sun in Sagittarius? How do you deal with giving and getting advice?

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Deciding about Libra

On the first day of Libra, let's talk about Libra...

The Libra problem is that it is difficult to make choices. That is not just a Libra problem. So why is it so difficult to decide, for Libra in particular? It is because Libra is in the middle of the balance, trying to keep everything up in the middle, without too much depression and overwhelming excitement. When you make choices, you may hurt someone's feelings. 

Libra is the sign of balance, they say, but it doesn’t mean that every Libra is in balanced, on the contrary. It is easy to get out of balance, when you are balancing. And that is what Libra does: seeking balance, keeping peace, always trying to avoid fighting, arguing and war. It is the main goal of Libra to keep things nice, fine and in harmony. That doesn’t mean that every person born with Sun in Libra is a peacemaker or no person born under Libra would ever be a soldier.  A sign is not a person and vice versa. When they call you ‘a Libra’ you may have more planets in Scorpio or Virgo than in the sign where your Sun is. You can be any sign and have an important Libra (Moon, Ascendant, Midheaven) that is pointing at beauty, harmony and peace. 

Nevertheless: the Sun is the most important object in the sky. When the Sun is in the astrological sign Libra (which is not the constellation, but a season) astrologers consider you to be an aesthetical man or woman. Let us find some of these aesthetical examples and skip the artists. You can find them on Art&Astrology.

You can find something on this blog on the charts of Libra's like:

1.     Eleanor Roosevelt (http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/12/laura-bush-heiress-of-eleanor-roosevelt.html)

2.     Margareth Thatcher (yes, a Libra, with an important Mars: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/10/chart-of-margareth-thatcher-sunmoon-and.html )

3.     Serena Williams (a competitive Libra: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/09/chart-of-serena-williams-explaining.html)

I have blogged about the charts of

a. Jimmy Carter http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2010/08/sometimes-controverial-statesman-in.html

b. Mahatma Gandhi http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2009/03/astrology-chart-of-mahatma-gandhi.html

But  how about Simon Cowell (born October 7, 1959 in Lambeth, London UK, time unknown)? Earlier this year there was a lot of fuzz about a woman (the wife of his friend) being pregnant.  It seems that he earns more than 50 million pounds/year and that is not surprising with a conjunction of Venus and Pluto rising before a ‘calling’ Sun. That is typical for a star (someone drawing attention) to whom earning money comes in the first place.  With Venus square Jupiter, too, he succeeded in it. It also makes him very successful with the ladies…With so many choices life is hard for a Libra:).

EXTERNAL LINK

ElsaElsa on Libra making choices: http://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/2011/05/05/balance-libra-may-be-the-better-option-over-the-extreme-choice/

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Golden Oldies of Astropost -4 - accidents

Last post about 'Golden Oldies' (IMO:) on this blog was related to crime. This post is about astrology in general. If you are interested in sun signs only, use this link to all posts about sun signs only...:
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/search/label/sunsign%20astrology

1. A simple one to start with: an insurance company found that more fast Aries than cautious Capricorn are involved in accidents: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2007/10/accidents-happen.html

2. Basic knowledge: what is a chart? If you don't know, read this:
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/03/basic-knowledge-of-astrology-what-is.html

3. See what a difference an hour of birth makes in this example:
http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/06/what-diference-birth-time-makes-birth.html about fysic Luis Alvarez and the son of Aga Khan

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BIRTHDAY OF JULIA L. PARKER A chart with a prominent Neptune and Pluto

Julia L. Parker wrote several books about astrology. What in her chart screams 'astrology'?

She was born July 27 1932 in Plymouth, 17:00 hours. Neptune is calling0) and on top of her chart. That reminds me: she is an expert in explaning dreams. Pluto is oriental. And here we got Neptune/Pluto for the paranormal field.

JUPITER AND URANUS
Uranus is 112.5 d away from Sun/Jupiter'; Jupiter semi square Uranus/MC and Uranus is opposition the Sagittarius Ascendant. Here you got 3 Jupiter-Uranus connnections. And Jupiter is trine Uranus. That completes the rule of 3!:) I have not seen an astrologer without the Jupiter-Uranus-combination, yet.